‘He Frowned’ in Marvelous Quran site

The Marvelous Quran website claims the upholding of Quran only as a source for religious law for God’s Religion. As we know the words of the Quran mandate that we uphold the Quran alone (17:46) and that it is the only source of law (6:114), a fully detailed scripture (10:37, 7:52) and a Statute Book or Criterion. Belief in God dictates that we believe God’s words in the Quran.

This is in reference to part one of the series about Sura 80 (‘Abasa or He frowned). The goal, in part one, is to build a foundation for subsequent conclusions. We will address those foundations. God calls the Quran the best Hadith (39:23) and admonishes us not to uphold any hadith other that the Quran itself (77:50, 7:185, 45:6).

MESSENGER – PROPHET

Dr. Hany Atchan states a messenger (rasool) delivers the message while a prophet (nabi) provides ‘interpretation of scripture’ providing no reference to verses of the Quran for that conclusion.

There are numerous verses in the Quran which state that God explains the revelations (2:242, 3:103, 5:75, 6:55, 6:105, 7:58, 7:174, 57:17 and many more). There is no verse in the Quran which states that a messenger or prophet explains the Quran.

As pointed out by Dr. Hany Atchan, God calls Moses (19:51) and Ismail (19:54) a messenger prophet (rasulan nabiyya).

  • In 19:56, Idris is called a saint, a prophet (siddian nabiyya) pointing to the fact that all prophets are truthful but all truthful are not prophets.
  • In 17:93-94 we have “asharan Rasulan” or “a human a messenger” or a human who is also a messenger, but not every human (basharan) is a messenger.
  • In 17:95 we have “malakan rasulan” or “an angel as a messenger”, but not every angel can be a messenger.

Messenger prophet (rasulan nabiyya) means that all prophets are messengers, but all messengers are not prophets. Nowhere in the Quran the opposite expression “prophet messenger” or “Nabiyan Rasoula” has been used.

Thus 33:40 calls Muhammad a messenger of God and the final prophet. Muhammad is not called the final messenger. Verse 3:81 indicates that after all prophets a messenger will come.

“OFFICIAL STORY”

If Dr. Hany Atchan does not accept the books of Sira and the books of Hadith, why bring up one of their stories to debunk? Why bring up the story to debunk the rudeness of the Sahaba, or possible contradiction in the Quran based on the story? Again, based on a story, why even examine why the Sura was revealed?

It is simply a story written by humans. Why not examine the words of Sura 80 in light of the Quran (5:101)?

He frowned and turned away.
When the blind man came to him.
How do you know? He may purify himself.
Or he may take heed, and benefit from the message.
As for the rich man.
You gave him your attention.
Even though you could not guarantee his salvation.
The one who came to you eagerly.
And is really reverent.
You ignored him.

BIGGEST PROBLEM – MISTAKE BY A MESSENGER

The Quran gives examples of mistakes by various messengers throughout the Quran. Noah (11:45-45), Abraham (60:4), Jonah (21:87), Joseph (12:41-42), Moses (28:15-16), Solomon (38:31-33) and Muhammad (17:73-75; 33:37, 66:1, 9:43 and indeed 80:1-12). In verse 18:110, Muhammad states “I am no more than a human like you.” Prophet Muhammad like all messengers before him was human and fallible.

Prophet Muhammad has delivered the Quran which is fully preserved (15:9) by the Almighty.

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The Quran commands us not to make distinction among messengers (2:136, 2:285, 3:84). Our religion is about God and the absolute worship of God alone (39:45). Dr. Hany Atchan refers to our “beloved Prophet Muhammad” numerous times. Should our focus not be on God?

Dr. Hany Atchan also mention about facing ‘beloved Prophet’ on the Day of Judgement. Should our concern and focus not be on facing God on the Day of Judgement?

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The point of the above is to question the foundations built of part one when examined in light of the words of the Quran. Dr. Hany Atchan conclusions in part two and three would thus be dubious.

3 thoughts on “‘He Frowned’ in Marvelous Quran site

  1. Adnan Akhtar

    “ There is no verse in the Quran which states that a messenger or prophet explains the Quran. “

    Is there any confusion that a messenger’s role is to deliver a message, that a messenger and a prophet have different roles, and that a prophet’s role would be to bring people back to an existing message? This doesn’t really require a verse, just thought. Further, only God provides guidance, no prophet or messenger can do that. Only with guidance can you understand the Quran, you only get guidance if your approach to the Quran and to God is pure and sincere. Otherwise this book will misguide you.

    “Messenger prophet (rasulan nabiyya) means that all prophets are messengers, but all messengers are not prophets. Nowhere in the Quran the opposite expression “prophet messenger” or “Nabiyan Rasoula” has been used”

    Where did you get this conclusion from? Messenger prophets means ALL prophets are messengers? All prophets brought scripture? What’s the basis for this conclusion?

    It seems as if there is a resistance to understand the clear differences between a messenger and a prophet because Allah stated we should obey the messenger and did not say obey the prophet. This affects the gatekeepers of guidance.

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    1. masood Post author

      “Messenger prophet (rasulan nabiyya) means that all prophets are messengers, but all messengers are not prophets. Nowhere in the Quran the opposite expression “prophet messenger” or “Nabiyan Rasoula” has been used”

      >>Where did you get this conclusion from? Messenger prophets means ALL prophets are messengers? All prophets brought scripture? What’s the basis for this conclusion?<<

      1. And God took a covenant from the prophets: “For what I have given you of the Book and wisdom, then a messenger will come to you authenticating what is with you… 3:81

      Verse 3:81 states that the prophets, who were given book (scripture), a messenger will come to confirm or authenticate what exists (scripture).
      (All) prophets are given a scripture. A messenger merely confirms what exists or is already there. Every prophet is relaying the scripture is also a messenger. But every messenger is not a prophet.

      2. 19:51-52 “Wa kana Rasoula Nabiyyan” or “was a messenger prophet”.

      In plain English, “Moses/Ismail was a messenger who was also a prophet”. This expression is chosen by God to emphasize that every prophet is a messenger, but every messenger may not be a prophet.

      Nowhere in the Quran the opposite expression “prophet messenger” or “Nabiyan Rasoula” has been used.

      19:56 “kana Siddiqan Nabiya” or “was truthful prophet” however all “Saddiq (truthful)” are not prophets.

      17:93-94 “Basharan Rasulan” or “a human a messenger” or a human who is also a messenger, but not every human (Basharan) is a messenger.

      17:95 “Malakan Rasulan” or “an angel as a messenger”, but not every angel can be a messenger.

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    2. masood Post author

      >>It seems as if there is a resistance to understand the clear differences between a messenger and a prophet because Allah stated we should obey the messenger and did not say obey the prophet. This affects the gatekeepers of guidance.<<

      Not relevant as every prophet is a messenger.

      “ There is no verse in the Quran which states that a messenger or prophet explains the Quran. “

      >>Is there any confusion that a messenger’s role is to deliver a message, .. <<

      The Quran is the message per 21:10 and numerous other verses. A scripture is delivered by a prophet not a messenger. A messenger simply confirms what exists.

      >> that a messenger and a prophet have different roles, and that a prophet’s role would be to bring people back to an existing message? <<

      It is the opposite. The messenger brings people back to the message which exists (present scripture/s).

      >>This doesn’t really require a verse, just thought. Further, only God provides guidance, no prophet or messenger can do that. Only with guidance can you understand the Quran, you only get guidance if your approach to the Quran and to God is pure and sincere. Otherwise this book will misguide you.<<

      Agreed. God is the only Teacher of the Quran 55:2 and God is the only Guide.

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